A mother of many children gave birth in a cesspool. Topic: How to correctly understand the swap in points and calculate it for an open position depending on the lot. How to correctly understand the swap in points and calculate it for an open position depending on the lot

Viktor Bukharaev

Not people, but animals. Someone modifies God about a child, and someone is worse than an animal.

Maxim Yusupov

The situation and history are just terrible.
But it brings up some very important themes.
Firstly, women do this because there is no normally functioning state system when you can anonymously place an unwanted, but already born baby in an orphanage (God forgive such parents, because there is no human forgiveness for them).
The second is the fear of society condemning pregnancy and childbirth out of wedlock (this is not a lack of society, but in this regard we still have an extremely conservative approach)
Thirdly, people do not have confidence in the future, which is why there are thoughts that children are unwanted. I suppose that the woman also did not have the support of close people who would dissuade her from such a step.
Fourth, she should have been seen by a doctor at the stage of pregnancy, which means that social services should have taken an interest in the state of the family, its position and opportunities in order to give birth to a child. And take action to provide appropriate assistance. They or not at all in the area. or they do not deal properly with such matters.
In the end - after the child is not in danger and postpartum measures are observed - it is necessary to deprive the mother without alternative parental rights, because once I decided on something like this, I will decide in the future.

Isaac Kleiner

“And take action, provide appropriate assistance”
and on whose neck will they lay the payment of benefits and help mat?
of course, on the employer, which is why now there is a practice that newlyweds are quickly thrown out of firms so as not to pay maternity leave..

it will be easier to distribute free condoms to the poor (http://www.unaids.org/sites/default/files/20170213_PS_Condom_Day_ru.pdf) so as not to breed poverty.
Otherwise, you will have to increase the cost of social sphere, which means introducing new taxes and penalties to get the budget deficit ..

Yes, and you are missing the main thing .. it’s not the mother’s fault, but the father’s ..
do we have a child rights representative like Pavel Astakhov?

if there were such a representative (from among experienced lawyers and with connections to the Ministry of Internal Affairs), he would immediately be able to identify the second parent and force him to pay child support until adulthood.
in addition, we will soon have a consumer basket, which means that the minimum living wage and that means it will be possible to set a minimum threshold for alimony (and if you can’t pay, sell a kidney)

we have a country with an eastern bias, that is, a mother will never be able to earn as much as a father, so the mother should not bear financial responsibility and this must be fixed at the legislative level.

introduce the right for the child to demand the recovery of damages from the second parent who evaded the performance of his duties .. moreover, the law should be with unlimited retroactive force, i.e. if the parent has already died, and after the fact an inheritance was discovered that was not declared earlier, then allocate an equal share for claimant.

Maxim Yusupov

“and on whose neck will they lay the payment of benefits and the mat of assistance?“
I think if you understand it well and approach it from the right point of view, you can find where the state can get money to help in such cases. As an example, if you want to make a magnificent wedding, donate some money (or a sheep) to the Single Mothers Assistance Fund, mahalla .. How this money will be distributed and whether it will reach the addressee is again a question of the state. regulation. In this case, it is not always possible to pay off with money. We need psychologists. experienced people who are not indifferent in such matters, who will help with advice, kind word, which the current will then be supported by material assistance.
“thrown out of firms so as not to pay for maternity leave” - I have not seen such a practice, but I will take my word for it. But if a woman is a specialist in whom the company has invested, she will wait for her. Again, this is a question for Mr. labor regulation.
“It will be easier to distribute free condoms to the poor” - the sensations are not the same :), and all of the above is the result of the pursuit of sensations. and in the middle of the field, usually, there is nowhere even to wash your hands, and you are talking about condoms.
“Yes, and you are missing the point. it’s not the mother’s fault, but the father’s” - I would say how it sounds on the street, but I won’t. Both are to blame, but in the end the child, the new future citizen of the country, suffers - again, if neither mother nor father wants him - the state should take custody, but the state was stirred up only after an assassination attempt was carried out. and this is a murder, whatever one may say (P.S. as it was presented in the article, because we don’t know the real facts, we had real medical cases when a woman didn’t even suspect that she was pregnant before giving birth)
“force to pay alimony until adulthood.” Do you know the average amount of alimony in the country? ashamed to say .. you can’t buy diapers for this money for a month. In this case, the fathers underestimate the official salary, so as not to pay alimony. Again, you need Mr. intervention in the establishment of the mechanism.
In general, again, they came to the conclusion that without the proper participation of the state in this area, the protection of single mothers and children, participation in their fate, recovery from a failed father is a matter for the state and society, including. And here it is necessary to revise many points. And then they want to ban lavish weddings, they saw it was a pity for "other people's" money, and then an attempt was made to murder - and no one cares.

Irina Kuznetsova-Vorontsova

Isaac Kleiner, right! Young people are hired (I'm talking about girls), but as soon as a girl becomes pregnant, she is forced to quit. (I'm talking about the private sector). The employer is satisfied with the way she works, but paying for prenatal and postnatal leave, paying benefits for caring for a child under 2 years old is not profitable for him, it is costly. Yes, the salaries are low. So such mothers remain without anything, and even lose their experience. It is clear that the father of the child is responsible. But how many women are left without husbands! And why can't a working woman who decides to give birth get at least a little?! Working women (not in state enterprises) have a choice: either give birth, but at the same time quit, and we don’t care how you and your child will live and on what. Or work without thinking about having children. There is another option - to go to court so that they do not force them to quit or be reinstated at work. But this option is...